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Irish
06-09-2004, 09:02 PM
> Subject: How old is Grandma?
> Stay with this -- the answer is at the end - it will
> blow you away.
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> One evening, a grandson was talking to his
> grandmother about current events. The grandson asked his
> grandmother what she thought about the shootings at schools, the
> computer age, and just things in general.
>
> The Grandma replied, "Well, let me think a minute.
> I was born before television, penicillin, polio
> shots, frozen foods, Xerox, contact lenses, Frisbees and
> the pill..
>
> There were no credit cards, laser beams or
> ball-point pens.
>
> Man had not invented pantyhose, air conditioners,
> dishwashers, clothes dryers, and the clothes were
> hung out to dry in the fresh air and man had yet to walk
> on the moon.
>
> Your Grandfather and I got married first and then
> lived together.
>
> Every family had a father and a mother. Until I was
> 25, I called every man older than I, "Sir"- - and
> after I turned 25, I still called policemen and every man
> with a title, "Sir".
>
> We were before gay-rights, computer-dating, dual
> careers, day-care centers, and group therapy.
>
> Our lives were governed by the Ten Commandments,
> good
> judgment,and common sense.
>
> We were taught to know the difference between right
> and wrong and to stand up and take responsibility
> for our actions.
>
> Serving your country was a privilege; living in
> this country was a bigger privilege.
>
> We thought fast food was what people ate during
> Lent.
>
> Having a meaningful relationship meant getting
> along
> with your cousins.
>
> Draft dodgers were people who closed their front
> doors when the evening breeze started.
>
> Time-sharing meant time the family spent together
> in the evenings and weekends - not purchasing
> condominiums.
>
> We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CDs,
> electric typewriters, yogurt, or guys wearing earrings.
>
> We listened to the Big Bands, Jack Benny, and the
> President's speeches on our radios. And I don't ever
> remember any kid blowing his brains out listening to
> Tommy Dorsey.
>
> If you saw anything with 'Made in Japan' on it, it
> was junk.
>
> The term 'making out' referred to how you did on
> your school exam.
>
> Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and instant coffee were
> unheard of.
>
> We had 5&10-cent stores where you could actually
> buy things for 5 and 10 cents.
>
> Ice-cream cones, phone calls, rides on a streetcar,
> and a Pepsi were all a nickel.
> And if you didn't want to splurge, you could spend
> your nickel on enough stamps to mail one letter and
> two postcards.
>
> You could buy a new Chevy Coupe for $600, but who
> could afford one? Too bad because, gas was 11 cents
> a gallon.
>
> In my day, "grass" was mowed, "coke" was a cold
> drink, "pot" was something your mother cooked in,
> and "rock music" was your grandmother's lullaby.
>
> "Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office,
> "chip" meant a piece of wood, "hardware" was found in a
> hardware store and software" wasn't even a word.
>
> And we were the last generation to actually believe
> that a lady needed a husband to have a baby.
>
> No wonder people call us "old and confused" and say
> there is a generation gap.
>
> And how old do you think grandma is???
> Read on to see -- pretty scary if you think about
> it and pretty sad at the same time.
>
> This is something to think about.
>
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> How time has changed....
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> Grandma is 58.
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> > > How could so much go wrong in such a short time?

Sharni
06-09-2004, 09:08 PM
Yes human kind has got things wrong...but there are also instances we have got things very right too

Thats progress

PantyFanatic
06-09-2004, 09:34 PM
I've also lived 58 winters and when you make a jump that far, you are not going to land standing straight up. You have the choice of stumbling forward or falling on your ass in the river.

We were allowed to bring some of the old things along with us too, like good judgment and common sense. And we are still allowed to know the difference between right and wrong and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions.

I have a hunch those will be the ones to make the next leaps forward too. ;)

LixyChick
06-10-2004, 05:06 AM
But...what do ya spose went so wrong that these kids feel the need to shoot it all to hell? That part...it's that part that I just can't grasp! How can someone so young feel so much burden and misery?

You'd think that with all the good things that have been happening since "the good ole days"...these kids today would feel blessed...but it's just not the case...and I can't figure out why!!!

PantyFanatic
06-10-2004, 08:18 AM
I share your thoughts and feelings Lixy.:( It would seem our scientists and engineers have experienced a bit more success meeting their challenges than have our psychologists and sociologists.:rolleyes:

Lilith
06-10-2004, 08:23 AM
Deprivation=appreciation how can you miss and be grateful for that which has always been provided to you.

Oldfart
06-10-2004, 08:38 AM
I was 10 before we had a B&W TV, 25 before colour TV came on stream.

Irish
06-10-2004, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Lilith
Deprivation=appreciation how can you miss and be grateful for that which has always been provided to you.
Lilith---I agree!When my grandchildren,are here with me,I have
noticed that they have, NO knowledge,of the cost(value) of things,because their parents,have always provided it. Irish
P.S.My oldest grandson,has a small motorcycle,Go-Cart,bicycle,
play-station,etc.He is (approx) 10yrs.He takes them ALL for
granted!What can I say?I'm not his parent.

Coaster
06-10-2004, 10:41 AM
Our kids thought we were cruel to not get them cable TV, buy thier first car or car insurance.... but then you see the ownership and responsibility they have now when their invested in something they've paid for!

Irish
06-10-2004, 11:46 AM
When I was a kid.(Yes,that long ago!)My father,told me,that I could have anything,that I wanted.As long as I paid for 1/2.It's
,almost suprising,the way that you treat things better,when you
have worked for them.Ex.-You don't go down a hill,jump off,& let
your bicycle go,when you have worked,to purchase it.I had 8
neighborhood lawns to cut + our own,when I was 15.Obiesity,
was the least of your worries! Irish

Cobalt
06-10-2004, 12:15 PM
I could add alot more to this, but............... I totaly agree and it just agravates me to no end the attitude and respect for no one and nothing these kids have today compared to what it was even 30 years ago, much less 40, 50 or 60 years ago.
Trust is one of the important things that has been getting lost over those few short years.

I added enough, could go on and on. But what good would it do? The damage is done and it is only getting worse as time goes by. The future doesn't look so good when you look at who will be our nations leaders and decision makers in the next few years, with the mentality they are showing.

Scarecrow
06-10-2004, 06:05 PM
Dear Dr. Spock,
Look what you have done. Kids today have to have their egos pampered so that they do not grow up as bad kids.

osuche
06-10-2004, 06:16 PM
I think I take too much for granted at times, and I certainly worry that my kids will. Money wasn't to be had when I was young -- for food, let alone for PlayStation or cable. While I want to do better for my kids, I worry about their attitudes and the sense of "entitlement" that I see in some kids.

I think I would have liked the "old days" though -- the days when my boss couldn't call me at 8 pm on a Saturday (thanks to cell phones), people really worked 40 hours a week, and I wasn't constantly connected. But I guess you take the good with the bad.

Belial
06-10-2004, 09:37 PM
While I agree that society has left behind some very positive things - like physical fitness by necessity of work, (mostly) low stress, and so on, it is scarcely deniable that many of the beliefs and practises of "the olden days" were the genesis of our current and recent problems. It was my grandparents' generation that kickstarted the nuclear arms race, the most significant wars in memory, assisted and in some cases installed brutal dictators, initiated conscription (at least in this country), and told my and my father's generation that AIDS was a "gay disease", and withheld what they knew to be dangers of smoking tobacco. The boom of big industry and automobiles preceded environmental concern, and it was during this time that McCarthyism appeared. Today, my grandparents are afforded opportunities of medical treatment, communication, cultural tolerance and diversity, social welfare and entertainment that were hitherto unknown to them. I have no doubt that my grandchildren, should I have any, will look upon my generation as having allowed all sorts of things to happen on our watch that shapes their lives in ways that aren't necessarily positive, and they'll probably be right. But I think to ponder "where it all went wrong" is to take a very rose-coloured view of history.

PantyFanatic
06-10-2004, 10:34 PM
Well stated Belial!

I thought I was reading a post from Teddy for a second, and NOT only because of the avatar.

Oldfart
06-11-2004, 08:34 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why I need a car technically

more advanced than the Luner Landers to drive eight miles to work.

Irish
06-11-2004, 08:58 AM
OF---You're like me!The ONLY reason that I bought a newer car,is
that,my wife & older daughter,bugged me,to get something newer
& more depedable.I was driving an '83 Bronco11.It was Bronze
with a Black drivers door,mismatched mirrors & jury-rigged,so
badly,that,probably,only I, could drive it.It was ugly,but who cares?If it's got wheels,I can make it run,+ it passed inspection,
every year.My buddy,owns a body shop.I have told him-I don't
care what it looks like-Just make it so it passes inspection! Irish

Belial
06-13-2004, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by Oldfart
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why I need a car technically

more advanced than the Luner Landers to drive eight miles to work.

Because you need to be a happy little consumer :)