12-01-2008, 03:03 PM
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Amnesty(cont)
Subj: Has the war been costly...?
You think the war is costing us?
OH! Now I understand!!!
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:
Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS!
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! Verify at: http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCR...4/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANSCR.../01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANSCR.../12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute....deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Verify at: http://www.rense com/general 75/niht.htm < http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .' Verify at: http: //www.drdsk.com/articleshtml<http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml> < http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. Are we THAT stupid? Irish
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12-01-2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Irish
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. Are we THAT stupid? Irish
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You win. I'm sick of it already.
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12-01-2008, 06:37 PM
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Have you verified those facts via the links, Irish?
...Then why don't some of the links work?!?!
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12-01-2008, 07:12 PM
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...And really, you should check that the links (those that actually work, I mean) do indeed verify the "facts" like you say they do. That "fact" #2, the one that says that "$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens," is not verified by the link you provide. There's no point in checking out the rest of the sources you quote, as you are not credible in your reporting of facts.
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Si dans les jeux d'enfants on entend encore l'accent...
Si nous sentons encore l'espoir de nos grands-parents...
Si dans les voiles du large souffle encore le vent...
Y'a jamais eu de Grand Dérangement.
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12-01-2008, 07:28 PM
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Prediction:
I'm not responsible. I just got this in an email.
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12-01-2008, 08:10 PM
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I won't comment on the claimed direct costs, but this was a doozy.
"$200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens."
This says that Americans would be earning higher wages if the cheap labour wasn't holding back wages. If that were true, then that money is still going to Americans (the bosses), so it won't count as a national loss.
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12-01-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Neige
...Then why don't some of the links work?!?!
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Neige,
Annoyingly, several of the links are mistyped. Here are three corrections. They should open in your browser.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../12/ldt.01.html
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html
To respond to item #9, if unsuppressed – higher – wages were paid instead of the suppressed – lower – ones, the additional costs would probably be passed along in the form of increased prices. Would this be the preferred solution? If so, would it remain the preferred solution if the increased prices put the products or services beyond the reach of poorer Americans?
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12-02-2008, 06:32 AM
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I can only repeat what I said before ... if our borders aren't worth protecting ... what is? Do we really not care who enters? Drug dealers? Criminals? Terrorists? Is there any reason we should assume they would not take advantage of an open border policy?
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12-02-2008, 08:21 AM
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Men and women of ill intent won't let a few borders get in their way.
There are three obvious ways to go:
1. Eject everyone who is not in the States legally,
2. Throw up your hand and open the borders, (probably not a high probability)
or 3. Throw out all the criminal illegals and hang onto all the ones who
have dealt honestly after their illegal entry.
When they have solved that, world peace and cold fusion will be solved by the following Tuesday.
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12-02-2008, 08:33 AM
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When they have solved that, world peace and cold fusion will be solved by the following Tuesday.
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I love whorled peas! I have yet to try this new drink you speak of!
Actually the answer is:
42!!!!
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12-02-2008, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilith
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I'm not responsible. I just got this in an email.
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WRONG!I am responsible & this e-mail was just to wake people up over just how much this is costing us.I haven't verified everything but this is just to
wake LEGAL citizens up!If someone wants to nitpick over everything-more
power to them!If people dissaree with anything than don't read it,there is no
mandatory thing that everyone has to agree with everything. Irish
P.S.If everyone agreed on everything,we wouldn't need elections!
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12-02-2008, 09:26 AM
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[QUOTE=Irish]WRONG!I am responsible & this e-mail was just to wake people up over just how much this is costing us.I haven't verified everything but this is just to
wake LEGAL citizens up!If someone wants to nitpick over everything-more
power to them!If people dissagree with anything than don't read it,there is no
mandatory thing that everyone has to agree with everything. Irish
P.S.If everyone agreed on everything,we wouldn't need elections!
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12-02-2008, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dicksbro
I can only repeat what I said before ... if our borders aren't worth protecting ... what is? Do we really not care who enters? Drug dealers? Criminals? Terrorists? Is there any reason we should assume they would not take advantage of an open border policy?
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Of course, we've got plenty of fine, upstanding, American-born drug dealers, criminals, and terrorists here, as well. I never really understand the assumption that the bulk of the people who will cross the border are from these 3 sociopathic groups. I imagine they comprise the same percentage in just about any population. Most people, though, just want to make a better life for their families, like you and me, and like our great-grandparents did when they came to this country.
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12-02-2008, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish
WRONG!I am responsible & this e-mail was just to wake people up over just how much this is costing us.I haven't verified everything but this is just to
wake LEGAL citizens up!If someone wants to nitpick over everything-more
power to them!If people dissaree with anything than don't read it,there is no
mandatory thing that everyone has to agree with everything. Irish
P.S.If everyone agreed on everything,we wouldn't need elections!
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You claim responsibility to lies?
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Si nous sentons encore l'espoir de nos grands-parents...
Si dans les voiles du large souffle encore le vent...
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12-02-2008, 11:53 AM
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Turn it up!
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I love whorled peas! I have yet to try this new drink you speak of!
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I had an ice cold Fusion just the other day. It's an acquired taste. Probably just hasn't gotten around to Merry Olde yet.
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