06-22-2005, 05:35 PM
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Time to start writing and I don't mean eroyic stories.
This is still America and I will say it
This administration SUCKS
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06-22-2005, 06:09 PM
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Lilith,
What parts of 18 U.S.C. § 2257 are at issue?
As Pixies doesn’t produce the images in question it isn’t a Primary producer. Sec. 75.1 Definitions, C, (1)
I presume that the concern is about (2), in particular the part I’ve underlined: “A secondary producer is any person who produces, assembles, manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digitally- or computer- manipulated image, picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct, or who inserts on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise manages the sexually explicit content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct, including any person who enters into a contract, agreement, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.”
Even so, Pixies is not a producer per (4) (ii)
“Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to the following:
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(ii) Mere distribution;”
Pixies, while a commercial site, gets no revenue from the availability of the pictures at the site.
Perhaps I am looking at the statute incorrectly, or perhaps I am looking at the wrong parts of the statute, but I see no requirement for Pixies to maintain the records commercial pornographers must. It is the criminal penalties associated with inadequate or insufficient record keeping which is at issue here, is it not?
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06-22-2005, 06:17 PM
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Thanks JSeal...I've read that law (there are 3 dif versions/incarnations) and the ones that correspond about 8945743957239857 times now. The site is doing what is necessary to meet the guidelines imposed. I'm sure most webmasters who are concerned have sought out legal counsel to make sure they meet US federal guidelines.
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06-22-2005, 06:22 PM
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Lilith,
I thank you for the thanks, but what I was trying to do was to find out was what it is about the recent changes to the law that have brought about the change in policy here at Pixies.
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06-22-2005, 06:28 PM
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That's not a question I can answer. I don't have a background in federal law. The changes being made here are being made at most US based sites that include images of any kind. Yes we are primarily an erotica site but since primary producers are permitted to post their works here there must be reason to believe that federal rules could impact us or else soooo many sites would not have come to the same legal conclusions. I would suggest a PM to the owners if you feel you have some wisdom that thousands of webmasters and their legal services have overlooked.
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06-22-2005, 06:33 PM
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Lilith,
I was under the impression that this was a Q & A thread. I asked some questions, I made no suggestions. Please accept my apologies for having posted my questions.
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06-22-2005, 06:47 PM
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Your question was not the problem, I did not see it in the original post I read...
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It is the criminal penalties associated with inadequate or insufficient record keeping which is at issue here, is it not?
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2257 which is a minute part of a much bigger law does have a record keeping component but I have no idea if that is the issue. I am in no way competent or qualified to comment on matters of law. My knowledge begins at how the new pic guidelines (as deemed necessary) will be handled by myself and the moderators.
If you have questions, beyond my scope, as to the law or why the policy is now in place please forward them to the owners.
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06-22-2005, 07:07 PM
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Well........I read it, don't understand it so.....I'm just gonna keep posting like I have been until you or the owners tell me I can't. You guys know what pics I post. Good luck figuring it out.
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06-22-2005, 07:09 PM
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You are welcome to post CGT, you know we love it, but the pics should fall within the new guidelines.
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06-22-2005, 07:13 PM
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If you have questions if a pic meets the guidelines I'm sure any of the 3 of us who volunteer in that area would be glad to help.
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06-22-2005, 07:15 PM
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So are you saying cover up my tits and don't touch myself?
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06-22-2005, 07:20 PM
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LOL.... no and yes....
The guidelines say soft nudity ok but masturbation or simulated masturbation is not permissible.
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06-22-2005, 07:22 PM
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~Imaginary lover~
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Can I still show my pussy?
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06-22-2005, 07:25 PM
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laschivious spelling wtf??? seems to be being defined as to mean no close ups of genitalia.
Your gorgeous poses like in your av and in your sexy lingerie will still make the boys, and lots of the girls too, go crazy!!!
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06-22-2005, 07:28 PM
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Okayyyyyyyyy .....Goodbye couples pics *sniff*
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