Hold me tight....don't let me fall

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If you can't be good.....be good at it!

…yes, it’s just me peeking up your skirt. (how lovely!)

I not only like the view, I liked what you said.

I don’t have to be the least bit concerned with the WHY, I can now just pay attention to WHAT I’m doing.

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Hey.. you know my lesbian friend said that too... (weird). We aren't that different. http://www.epub.org.br/cm/n11/mente...bro-homens.html
The biggest draw back has been the stereotypes that have evolved over human civilization. "Caveman stronger.. he in charge.. he keep charge.. woman weaker. He in charge of her. Go hunt now."

If we all push, this stagnace can eventually be dissolved in a intelligent emotional society. But without society.. the push for "control/survival" limits this.

However the biggest arguement to give about the idiotic idea of the right of dominance of males I think is this with evolution. If woman are just supposed to be reproduction machines.. Than why give them libido? Why keep her intelligence? Evolutionarily it doesn't serve a purpose IF what woman are "supposed" to be is a sperm bank/task manager. (And thus disproves in one swell swoop.. except for the religious fanatics).

Slightly off track..

We aren't that different. At least 60% of the seeming difference is how society tells us to treat others. Then how much we as individuals embrace these set standards, or go beyond them.

I don't see woman as weird. Hell if were into honesty here.. well *gulp*. Since I more identify with the female POV and find the idea of female sexuality much more attractive than the male.. Sometimes I wish I was a woman (yep a Transexual).. most likely would be bi, but preference to woman. (The old Male "Im a lesbian stuck in a Male body") This being said I live in a world that cannot understand this. Maybe if we lived in this type of world in the first place this desire wouldn't bother me as much.

I don't think you were harsh either. Just trying to say "don't judge a book by it's cover".

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Well said, sixsense! And wow! Thanks for being so open with us all...

I've got to say, I've never identified myself as anything but straight, but I can be attracted to just about anybody --- the key for me is that they have to be comfortable with who they are, and open and honest about that. The better someone feels about him- or herself (without having an overblown ego), the more I'm liable to like them. Which means that if you feel sexy, and enjoy being sensual, whatever your orientation, I am bound to agree! I think HotGirl put it beautifully:

Mark me down under 'sexual' too!

--- sweetstuff

Thanks, and a HUG and a KISS to sixsense.
I am sure you would a wonderful lesbian!!

I know very well about the caveman part. I am 4'11", and have spent my life dealing with men who find it necessary to be the "caveman", both because of my gender, AND my height!

Hot girl, I was once asked to describe my self in just one word! Want to guess what I said?

Last, if men are not weird, explain the 3 Stooges to me. Also movies where lots of things blow up just to blow up!!

Nyuck Nyuck Boom!!" (The title of the perfect male movie!!)



WW

You can't/don't explain the Stooges - you just laugh at how stupid the are! Actually, I think the Stooges appeal to the little boy in us, when I grew up I much prefered the Marx Bros. (Sure, I'm a Marxist!)
Back to the topic at hand, now - the underlying theme I hear in this discussion is that we all wish we could discribe ourselves in a few simple words, but the words we wish to use have been turned into "labels" that have been used to hurt & pigeonhole - I'm with sixsense, I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body too - but I'm also much more than that - and I also wish so many of us males didn't feel the need to be Neanderthals to prove their manhood - but then again, I see so many women throw themselves at the bad boys! Ok, rambling man is back again, what was the topic again?

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If the theory does not conform to the facts, then the facts must be discarded.

No good deed ever goes unpunished

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, & beat you with experience.

All of peoples labeling, causes and psycho mumbo-jumbo has been interesting, but I would like to reflect on why we’ve all found a comfy seat here at Pixies.

As a very SEXUAL adult I’m here with people of common interests and I want to know, Wicked Wanda, more about, and see, not the one you run too, but the “hidey hole” you keep running away WITH.

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You were not harsh...and my feeling are not hurt at all. As a self proclaimed spokes person for the "incredibly sexual-hates to be labled-kicked around by "normal" people" person, I must admit that I LOVE to engage in discussions such as these. I like to be pushed to evaluate my thoughts and feelings on a regular basis. As a Libra (for those other astrological nuts) I crave the knowledge that gives me a balanced point of view...and I feel that discussion and evaluation prevents ignorance that hurts!

Thank you for your perspective...and your challenges. I think you have hit the nail on the head over and over. I merely hope to offer a view that separates sexual behavior from lables associated with "lifestyle".

I don't know that I am making any sense....

I come not to offend...but rather to expand! I love inuendos!

Ophelia

I just wanted to proclaim this thread a winner!!

It has lots of information...and the longest replies!!!
Took me 45 minutes to read it all!!!


But I do want to say this....

I am proud to be SEXUAL!!!!


Now what color of ribbon do I display on my coat collar???

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*Diva*



"Never shall I forget the time I spent with you. Please
continue to be my friend, as you will always find me yours."
Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827)

"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away."

Wonderful & thought provoking thread...

And I too can without a doubt proclaim my sexual identity!

I am....

Sexual!!!!

I've read almost everything you've ever written and must say that I appreciate your sense of humor...

You make me smile.

Wear what ever color you like...forget the coat...and the collar... just tape it to your bare breast!

Sexually yours,
Ophelia

Sorry to be the voice out of the corner, but why are so

many trying to fit themselves within labels.

We have comfort zones of personal, intellectual and

sexual contact with other people.

Labelling ourselves is a thing we do for others, and it is

not "us".

I don't have a down on anyone for being outside of my

zone of comfort and, I think, neither should anyone else.

I have had excellent nights on the grog with labelled people

and will do so again. Any labelling is ultimately limiting.

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Calm, quiet, smooth, devastating

Old Fart,

It seems you are missing the point. I am not trying to be critical, but when I said "I'll take the generic label of just SEXUAL" it was in essence a way of defying labels.

The act of not placing an adjective (homo, hetero, or bi) in front of sexual was in other words a way of NOT labeling our sexuality and embracing the fact that no matter who we choose to interact with or in what manner; it all boils down to the one fact that binds us all at Pixies....

WE ARE ALL SEXUAL PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

<Looking down>

There's that damned box again.....

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Thanks for all the replies! It was all very interesting

My wife and I have talked about this a great deal now and come to the conclusion that my wife is attracted to a certain type of person.
One that is soft, warm and intimate. It just so happens that most of these type of people are women.
I tend to agree that labeling does not work.

thanks again