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Irish 09-19-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gekkogecko
Merely cut and paste the individual quotes and on/off html commands individually.



Actually this, would be second-hand, but tha's a very minor quibble. Not anywhere near as important as:



Yeah, yeah, Ive heard this all before. "I/my father/my friend/my cultural hero, worked his/her/their assess off, and never exploited anyone", blah, blah, blah.

Hey, if that response seems dismissive, it's because it is.

The problem with this line of argument is that it totally ignores the vast majority of people who did exactly the same amount of work, worked exactly as hard as whomeever you're aggrandizing, and yet ended up with nothing to show for it.

The line of argument you're pursuing, (and I am attacking the argument, not you personally), is not much more than a continuance of the "blame the victim" mentality.

The social paradigm is that "In America, anyone can succeed. Therefore, if you don't succeed, there*must* be soemthing wrong with you."

...as opposed to the idea that we have something wrong with a system that encourages people to do whatever it takes (and "whatever" means "whatever": there can be found numerous examples of people who do succeed in socially acceptable ways that aren't as nasty as other, equally socially acceptable ways) to succeed. Indeed, "success" under this system is largely defined as being "better" than the majority of people, in whatever aspect you, the individual choose to emphasize.

Sounds as if someones bitter & also in favor of socialism! Irish :banghead:
P.S.Blame the Govt because I wasn't successful & don't know how to play the game!This is ExACTLY why I don't post much anymore!

gekkogecko 09-19-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gekkogecko
Hey, if that response seems dismissive, it's because it is.



It occurred to me as I was rushing off to work, that I should be clear, here: I am *not* dismissive of the work done by the referenced people, who were Airy's family.

I am dismissive of the line of argument that Airy advanced.

jseal 09-19-2008 02:40 PM

Comment allez-vous ?

gekkogecko 09-19-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish
Sounds as if someones bitter & also in favor of socialism! Irish :banghead:


"Bitter"? You bet your frekin' ass. "Socialism"? I don't know. That term has been bandied about by so many different people in so many different ways, that I can't honestly say I'm in favor of "socialism" in whatever sense you're using it.

I can say this: I am in favor of a complete *communist* political, economic and social interaction, as I mean the therm "communist". Of course, that meaning is a whole different thread. Not going to go into that explanation here, now.

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Originally Posted by Irish
P.S.Blame the Govt because I wasn't successful & don't know how to play the game!


If you're levelling that charge at me, you're way off base. First of all, I know very well how to play the bourgeois game of screw thy neighbor. And second, you miss the opint: *I* don't blame "the government". I blame the power brokers that run the politico-economic system that sets up the majority of people to fail.

Irish 09-20-2008 10:14 AM

If everyone wants to be negative,I don't care!Have at it.I'm not going to get all stressed because of peoples attitudes.I'm going back to just worrying about my own family.Hard work has always gotten us by,you learn to do things for your loved ones nomatter who's in charge.If you figure out the best
deals,instead of jumping into things,you never get in monetary trouble!Just worry about your own & don't try to keep up with the Joneses(sp?)I quit,I'm
tired of debating things.Everyone has thier own opinions! Irish :pissed:

scotzoidman 09-20-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jseal
Actually, I doubbt that you can.

Good Luck

What I really doubt is that anyone might ever get the last word with you.

jseal 09-21-2008 05:25 AM

scotzoidman,

I believe that you are mistaken. That ^^ happens often. As the evidence here at Pixies place will show, most of the threads in which I have posted do not end with my post.

This truth claim can be verified or falsified. Count the number of threads in which I have a post. Count the number of these threads which end with my post. If more than 50% of the threads in which I post end with my post, you are correct. If fewer than 50% of the threads in which I post end with my post, you are wrong.

That should be simple enough to do.

Good luck.

Lilith 09-21-2008 07:53 AM

Of jseal's 358,934 posts, 293,659 involve him counting to a million or from a million.

Scotz, if you actually give a rat's ass which I know you do not, throw those out before you start your fuzzy math.

Oldfart 09-21-2008 08:02 AM

Bonjour jseal.

Zis thread she seems to be well fuelled.

Wot say we start 'er up and see 'ow fast she does ze standing mile.

Irish, you can be ze starter and Mlle Lilith can catch ze buggers as zey fly off ze pier.

Did I forget to mention zat?

All ahead, wharf factor one.

Oldfart 09-21-2008 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by scotzoidman
What I really doubt is that anyone might ever get the last word with you.



FFS Zoid, I've been trying hard for the last few years.

jseal 09-21-2008 11:03 AM

Lord Snow,

How long was it before your town received supplies of premium gas? I presume there has been delivery of those grades by now.

scotzoidman 09-21-2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilith
Of jseal's 358,934 posts, 293,659 involve him counting to a million or from a million.

Scotz, if you actually give a rat's ass which I know you do not, throw those out before you start your fuzzy math.

All I give a rat's ass about is the fact that nothing he could post would do anything but prove me correct. Now, everybody who bet against jseal answering me, pay up! :wink:

jseal 09-21-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scotzoidman
What I really doubt is that anyone might ever get the last word with you.

scotzoidman,

Actually, you made the suggestion. Now it is up to you to substantiate it.

... again.

Good Luck

scotzoidman 09-21-2008 07:54 PM

I can answer the question myself, I've been back & forth between the 'Boro & NashVegas (including other points in the mid-state)all weekend... most stations have nothing, some have received some kind of allotment, followed by long lines of panic buyers, followed by said stations being out of gas again the next day. I felt very lucky indeed to find fuel at Kroger in Smyrna (halfway between M'boro & Nash) this a.m., & at slightly less than $4/gallon, somewhat of a bargain. Tough times for those of us who drive for a living. :banghead:

All I need is a leisure suit & a disco ball, & it's back to the 70's again. :doorpeek:

jseal 09-21-2008 07:58 PM

I wonder how long it will take to get supply to balance demand there. There are no shortages up here in Maryland that I am aware of, and I have not heard about this on the network News programs.

Odd.


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