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Lilith 09-01-2007 09:59 AM

Instruments
 
Does anyone know anything about flutes? I need one and am thinking I'd rather buy than lease but have no earthly idea what to look for. I know some peeps here play a variety of instruments, I was hoping for some shopping advice.

Neige 09-01-2007 10:19 AM

I want a flute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But they are expensive.

I'm looking for a second hand one right now. I'd taken a few months of lessons about 2 years ago and would love to learn more.

When I was learning, I was playing a Gemeinhardt. Unfortunately, that flute belongs to my very stubborn grandmother (who can't bear the thought of her granddaughter taking her flute away to Montreal - nevermind that she hasn't played it in a decade...). Because that's what I learned on, that's what I'm looking for now, but I've heard that Armstrong flutes are good too. I am watching on eBay currently, there are quite a few, but I think that the prices there are high right now, since many people are looking for a flute for school.

Do you play, Lil?

Lilith 09-01-2007 10:38 AM

No. I was a classically trained pianist in my youth and would kill to have a piano in the house and take lessons again. But it is one of my kiddos who is in band who is going to play the flute. I'm a little worried about him getting razzed. You don't see a hell of a lot of boy flute players in the middle school ranks.

I too have been scouring eBay and am seeing that I can buy one there for the cost of about 1/2 a year of rentals. I sent Mr. Lil to the music store this morning and am staying home to look up everything he sees there online :D

Booger 09-01-2007 02:12 PM

When I first read you were looking for a flute Lilith I wonder if you were going to band camp.

osuche 09-01-2007 03:27 PM

PM flutelady -- she should be able to help you. And if you need her email addy, let me know and I will provide it. :)


Good luck, Lil. :x:

PantyFanatic 09-01-2007 03:36 PM

I think N.........N..N....Neeeige's :faint: comment, "but I think that the prices there are high right now, since many people are looking for a flute for school.", is the crux and you may want to just grab the one that is less than the rental for now and do your scouting until the time frame shifts. You'll still have less cash-out-of-pocket now and can through it in the closet if interest wanes.

I do know a 'flautist' :brows: ...... and can ask about entry level instrument recommendations.




(aren't you proud of our restraint from going for the skin flute puns? :D )

Lilith 09-01-2007 06:29 PM

OldFart has not posted yet :p


I bought one on eBay. :D I paid under $80 for a used good named student flute that is reported to have all its pieces working and no dents.

Oldfart 09-01-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilith
OldFart has not posted yet :p


I am shocked that you could say something like that. I would never ever post gratuitous references to a pork piccolo, a mouth organ or a grand bagpipe without the direst duress.

A goodlooking flautist will be a chick magnet if he works on it. Remind him you have no desire to become a granny, at least not for a long time.

Lilith 09-01-2007 09:12 PM

It is the little one who threatens to stow away in you and the Mrs. suitcase so he can go to Australia ;) that will be making my ears bleed until he gets the hang of it :D

scotzoidman 09-01-2007 09:17 PM

Lil, sorry I couldn't get back in time, but it might surprise you to find that I didn't stop with the purchase of a bass...I actually am the owner of 2 flutes...& at one time I could play a couple of tunes on them (my friend & I would tear it up on "Greensleeves" guitar/flute duet every xmas).

Looks like Neige already answered as well as I could have, Gemeinhardt is (or was) the Cadillac of flutes, at least that was what I was told at one time...Armstrong was more like a Chevy, not top of the line, but good enough for the average student. I'm not sure, but I think that's what my 2 flute brands are...they're buried in a closet somewhere. I bought both used from a bandmate, the first one (Armstrong) had a broken piece that kept the last 2 stops from flapping open too far, but didn't affect my playing that much...but it was enough that when the same guy was ready to sell me his low-end Gemeinhardt, I made the Armstrong into a lamp :)

Sounds like you made a good deal on Ebay, what was the "good named student flute" you got? Dent aren't usually a big deal on flutes, unless in an area where two pieces have to fit together...the biggest problem you may have when the flute gets there is that the pads may be old & dried out, not something an average layman (or beginner) can detect, but if the pads are bad they'll leak air & the every note will sound like an asthmatic steam engine (or something like that...suddenly the right metaphor escapes me)...the pads & springs can be replaced making it good as new, but the last time I checked, it was about $50 for the repair, & that was years ago....

Lilith 09-01-2007 09:19 PM

Gemeinhardt sp2 ;) no dents, the pads are fine supposedly, has some scratches

scotzoidman 09-01-2007 09:39 PM

Good deal then...scratches just add charactor ;)

Good luck to the young music student...I too hope he doesn't get razzed, in my day playing the flute or clarinet was strictly for sissies...kept me in the trumpet section...

(get the feeling that I just tried every instrument out there till I found the right one? yeh, something like that...)

Lilith 09-01-2007 09:46 PM

I'm afraid it still may be. :s

Teddy Bear 09-01-2007 10:11 PM

2 Attachment(s)
scotz: "it was about $50 for the repair, & that was years ago...."
Lil: For future reference just in case you need a repair check with the school music dept. first.

OF: "A goodlooking flautist will be a chick magnet if he works on it."
History repeats: The flute's primary purpose was to be used as a courting instrument for young men's use only. Traditionally, women never would touch a flute.
(Native American Flutes, stories and history)
http://www.spottedeagle.com/flutes.htm

There are more men flutists then I thought.

Jazz Flute Players
http://www.musicianspage.com/musici...flute/jazz.html

Famous Flutists
http://www.flutecorner.com/famousflutists.htm

And these pictures show all ages.
(Flute pictures & videos on Webshots)
http://www.webshots.com/search?query=flute

Looks like your young one is in good company Lil.

Lilith 09-01-2007 10:19 PM

Thanks Teddy!

PantyFanatic 09-01-2007 10:38 PM

It's nice to see one quickly move along to the 'DONE' list and know you are ahead of the herd even with a late start. :thumb:

Lilith 09-02-2007 10:00 PM

Too good to be true it seems. The asshole is pissing me off. His auction clearly stated he accepts PayPal and now despite it having already been sent, he says he does not accept it.

Oldfart 09-02-2007 10:24 PM

Is he holding out for more?

PantyFanatic 09-02-2007 10:25 PM

http://pages.ebay.com/securitycente...tml?_trksid=m37

Lilith 09-02-2007 10:34 PM

No. He is saying he does not accept PayPal and wants a check. I do not have time to mail a check to his location, wait for it to clear, and then wait for the item to arrive, hoping it's acceptable and as described. Is why I chose a seller who accepted PayPal.

PantyFanatic 09-02-2007 11:50 PM

Tell him AND eBay that. ;)


I think there is some kind of a 'warning/bitch board' on there too. Don't know any of the details of how to use it, but time is not available to go through 'procedure', you may want to open with both barrels.



(if you DO have to go the long way, a money order could cut out the clearing time) :shrug:

Booger 09-03-2007 12:58 AM

I would agree with PF and go with a money order it only is a little more and no need to wait for a check to clear.

I would be worried about giving out a personal check. To many scams that can be run with them.

Lilith 09-03-2007 08:07 AM

The problem is I need the flute in the mail Tuesday in order to have it on time. Which is why I paid for it 2 days ago.

maddy 09-03-2007 08:27 AM

Okay, i'm a bit of an ebay novice. Wouldn't the seller need to have paypal setup on the listing in order for you to have transferred payment already? If that's true how can the seller now deny accepting paypal? Sounds like a bad ebayer to me.

sodaklostsoul 09-03-2007 08:38 AM

Thanks for the thread Lilith, my girl wants to take flute in band next year.

Good Luck with the Ebay jerk!

Lilith 09-05-2007 07:41 PM

I emailed him and pointed out that his auction clearly says he accepts PayPal and I have not heard from him since. I've contacted eBay as to how to proceed.

sodaklostsoul 09-05-2007 10:15 PM

Hopefully he'll send you the flute!

scotzoidman 09-06-2007 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilith
I emailed him and pointed out that his auction clearly says he accepts PayPal and I have not heard from him since. I've contacted eBay as to how to proceed.

And Ebay is responding with the lightening speed of molassass in February...

Lilith 09-06-2007 03:18 PM

Well I heard from eBay today. They wanted the email w/ headers that had him refusing to accept PayPal. I think I best go buy a new flute.

WildIrish 09-06-2007 04:03 PM

It sucks that you'll have to go get one after going through so much aggravation trying to ebay it, but at this point it's for the best. Now you don't have to worry about what kind of condition it will arrive in (if ever) and what that could entail.

Have you looked into music stores that may offer used instruments?

And if you're ever interested in taking up an instrument for yourself...I've got a flute right here you can use any time you like. ;)

Lilith 09-06-2007 09:19 PM

ha ha..Now eBay is fucking with me cause the seller did not email me from his eBay registered address.

Lilith 09-06-2007 09:30 PM

And I just realized that they are using the wrong seller ID. Dumbasses. I am completely surrounded by dumbasses.

sodaklostsoul 09-06-2007 09:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilith
And I just realized that they are using the wrong seller ID. Dumbasses. I am completely surrounded by dumbasses.

:nod:

:D

PantyFanatic 09-06-2007 11:52 PM

There is no monopoly on stupidity

wyndhy 09-07-2007 08:12 AM

yup^^ i had a woman ask me if i was wearing a pink shirt because we're gonna have a girl.

scotzoidman 09-07-2007 10:30 AM

As a ebay seller myself, I can understand why some don't want to accept PayPal, it's convenient to buyers but a costly option for sellers, but the SOB says he accepts PP in the listing & won't take it, he's clearly in violation of ebay's policies...

...and soon to be "not a registered user", we hope...

Lilith 09-07-2007 03:22 PM

He's still registered and they have closed my case without telling me wtf to do or anything at all.

I guess I'm renting a flute tomorrow. He needs it Monday. Thanks for trying to help me.

maddy 09-07-2007 05:58 PM

I'm curious if you at least got your money back through PayPal?

Lilith 09-07-2007 06:23 PM

He never claimed the payment.

scotzoidman 09-07-2007 08:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilith
He's still registered and they have closed my case without telling me wtf to do or anything at all.

I guess I'm renting a flute tomorrow. He needs it Monday. Thanks for trying to help me.

Let me get this straight...they let him show PayPal in his listing, yet not accept PayPal payments?

And they just slapped my hand & told me I can't say a book is "like new" (when there isn't a wrinkle on it), because that may be misleading...

I'm with you...Dumbass, completely totally surrounded by Dumbass...


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