Sorry for my crude terms, not very good at finding the best words to describe my intentions. I've heard that it can be very painful, or hardly felt at all, some I've heard to keep going if it hurts, because the pleasure will overcome the pain ect. and the opposite. Should it be just dependant on the situation?



As for Lilith, go watch Discovery channel, the only thing tamed hoses get to do is hump a god damned metal post :S