jseal, 4 occasions computes to nearly ten percent failure rate...maybe acceptable in some situations, but for choosing our leaders, I find it appalling...& if memory serves, the previous occasions resulted in ineffective one-term presidents...

__________________
Plug me into somethin'

If the theory does not conform to the facts, then the facts must be discarded.

No good deed ever goes unpunished

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, & beat you with experience.