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Originally Posted by Sharni
As a long term member myself....heres my 5c worth
Any newbie that makes the decision to come out and join us, and posts badly so to speak, should be taken by the hand and lead in the right direction....not bashed over the head!
Patience is required with any learner...you can still point em in the right direction and state you displeasure...but at least be nice about it...they can then learn from your example of manners.
If they continually post badly and are not learning then a MOD will take there hand and be a bit more forceful in the learning process....if after that they continue their path of destruction then the MODS will take furth action
I know ya want to rally the wagons and defend ya home ground (been there a few times myself) but i've been thinking very hard and long for quite a while...if we want Pixies to survive we NEED new blood
I've noted first hand what some newbies have been through.....we are saying come out and play with us...but DONT FUCK IT UP...cause we'll eat ya for dinner...damn scary i can tell ya
If we want em to post then we gotta give em a chance to learn the ropes
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Sharni? When we agree, we agree...but when we disagree I know I'd better duck when I have said my piece! LOL...*hugs*
I am about to duck...but not after I say this...
Mods aren't the know all and end all of this site! We are a community. and might I add, no mod was ever elected...but put into their position by the mods before them. I respect a mods position and appreciate all they do for us. I know it's a hard job...but [we] didn't ask you to take it. You took it for your own personal reasons. If I had my druthers...it'd be more diplomatic. But that's not saying that I wouldn't vote for everyone who is already in office...it's just to say that I don't like to be made to feel lesser the member because I am not a mod! We were ALL members first!
As I feel that most of your words are true and from the heart and I feel your caring...I get a feeling of double standard when it comes to who says what to who in some of these situations that bring up this very topic from time to time! What I mean is...it's ok for mods to say whatever they have to/want to say in a any thread. But mere members are expected to hold their tongue and only voice their disgruntled opinions to mods. This makes me feel like a "tattle tale, trouble maker, bitchy, whiney, OMG...here she comes again" kind of person...instead of the (sometimes) tactful, eloquent, articulate, diplomatic till you push my buttons to bursting kinda person I strive to achieve when I visit the site.
I get the feeling that I am being chastised if I've a notion to say something to a new member that I have no idea will spark an iron fist from a mod. It'd almost be easier to send a sample post in PM to a mod before making a statement in a thread.
I agree...sometimes [we] can get a bit overprotective and harsh. But, we are who we have always been till we feel a threat to the site...and if taking someone down a peg was a crime...you and I would be in "the dungeon" forever!
Final case in point...on behalf of mere members...
We know nice...and we know ignorant (and all that the meaning of the word entails)...and we tolerate one more than the other time after time! We don't purposely chase new members away! I feel backed into a corner here and I've a need to defend the majority.
If you sum up the posts of welcomes and helpfulness...against the posts of harsh reprimand and a "pack" attitude...you've got to admit...we ARE one great bunch of diverse people on any site EVER! So...not everyone loves every newbie to come and visit us! For the most part...the good outweighs the bad and we always open our arms to the good. To be told, time after time, of only our faults...as few as they are...instead of pointing out the all over good with the everyday participation...well...that bites! Plain and simple! That we keep getting told that it's great that we love this place, but don't dare stand up for it in the few times that we feel a need...well that bites too!
*jumps off the soapbox...ducks and runs so fast you can't even see my ass to spank it*