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Old 09-09-2006, 10:39 PM
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Have you ever admired someone who lived a less than wholesome life or at best a tragic one?

Is there a person/character that you feel you have a kinship to who is typically thought of for their negative traits?
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Old 09-09-2006, 10:52 PM
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Interesting question...someone in particular inspired this line of thought for you?

Being musically inclined, I've admired a great many musicians who went down the dark path, but I only did so because they were boldly breaking new ground & making sounds that nobody ever heard before, not for their excesses & abuses that took them away...
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Old 09-09-2006, 11:18 PM
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I was watching the movie and there were a few times I was able to find some similarities, all the while thinking how sad and pathetic the character was overall.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:56 AM
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Wow...and awesome question like that deserves a thought out and well put together response. I have answers, but I need to organize them. Great topic!
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In the movie Johnny Depp plays the 17th century Earl of Rochester who I believe was entered into Rippley's Believe It or Not for living the later part of his life wearing a nose cast in silver after his own was eaten away by the late stages of syphilis.A life long friend of mine lived most of his life pretty much as a libertine.In earlier times,his rogueish behaviour was his most admiriable quality.Later toward his end,he was just a pathetic drunk. I could do nothing for him and finally around 1996 I decided to burn that bridge. After a long illness that included a tumor on his spinal cord and severe bleeding ulsers,his sister called late one night in 2002 to inform me that he had passed away.I felt little more than a distant memory of a couple of kids in high school.He could never stop distroying himself and didn't live to see 50.
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like rooting for the evil twin in swan lake? yeah, i've done that.

i can't say i have admired everything about a person like you describe, but i have certainly admired some of their traits, related to some, and felt jealous of some, too.
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Anyone who cannot feel the call of the dark side isn't living.

There are many libertines who I admire for their ability to raise an eyebrow and women fall at their feet. I don't suffer from cold feet personally, but it could be handy.
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Originally Posted by Lilith
sexy but a downer


Have you ever admired someone who lived a less than wholesome life or at best a tragic one?

Is there a person/character that you feel you have a kinship to who is typically thought of for their negative traits?


I watched Libertine too and found it to be much less than I had hoped for. I was hoping for more promiscuity. It was a well told story of a sad and wasted life - a part of me thinks he was truly afriad to let go and live life and instead hid in the dregs of a bottle taking what minor pleasures suited him.

A person/character with typically negative traits I feel a kinshp to? To live another life? Perhaps as Veronica Franco. Educated, clever, loved deeply, and on the downside ...a courtesan. Less than respectable, but *sigh*
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