...Would they become more sympathetic with the male sex drive?

Too many women are either terrified of men, or annoyed at their lustful attentions. Too few actually CELEBRATE it, openly and joyously, except in bed.

Say the post-room boy walked around the typing pool with a hardon poking out from under his Chino's. Pretty quickly, he'd get the bums rush, and probably his P45 too (or american equivalent), amid screams of "Pervert!" and "Asshole!". Yet if Tingling Tess walked through the Accounts Department in a tight satin shirt, nipples visibly tingling along with the rest of her, the number-crunchers wouldn't run for the nearest Fire Exit, but simply stare appreciatively. I'm sure a few would like to drop their spreadsheets and spread her over their sheets...

(dodges rotten fruit!)

But, I honestly think that if all women had to live as men for just a month, pretty soon the typing pool would show reactions ranging from, "Oh poor thing, he hasn't been laid in ages!" to outright APPLAUSE. I can see some of the girls actually kissing our postal hero, and maybe one of them even grabbing his hand and saying, "Show me where you sort the mail at the back, and I'll help you sort your male thang on your front!"

Yeah, I know...another cheesy line!

But I think it would open womankinds eyes immensely, doing both them and MenKind too a big service. Both genders would be far more relaxed with each other, if they knew how URGENT our drives are.

Ps...I know some girls work in the mail sorting/accounts areas, and a very, very few guys are typists. Just using examples here to make points.


Jaybee.

It sounds like you need to get out more jaybee. LOL


I think that after you take matters in hand, (so to speak) and have a read around Pixies a bit more, you will see that there are a LOT of ladies that share and appreciate your feelings and thoughts. I believe our people are as healthy and typical as folks everywhere. Maybe only a bit more comfortable and open about it. It IS a personal matter, so perhaps you want to think about building personal relationships and not looking for societal expectations.

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Ummmm...yes, I was aware that the ladies here at Pixies are refreshing exceptions to the above. I was talking TO them, not ABOUT them, and merely reminding them, and you, that the thinking patterns of most of their sisters, sadly, still suffer from societal constraints of Victorian severity.

And you're right, I need to get out a lot more. As do we all...




JB

Unfortunately PF, I disagree with your statement that,
Pixies women are generally here because they have a sex drive and seek to explore it, not bury it. I do not believe this is the norm for the majority of women based on women I have talked to, friends' experiences, and magazine articles/radio programs I have seen/heard.

Further, I think Jaybee's hypothetical situation with the aroused male stated above is subject to qualifiers. If the post-room boy is well groomed, at least somewhat attractive or muscular, it's no big deal. He might even be secretly appreciated or discussed privately in the bathroom. If he is considered to be unattractive... too geeky, sloppy, or basically undesirable, he will be secretly (or not so much) ridiculed and perhaps even reported. Please understand ladies, I am generalizing here... but in general this is true.

I don't think women need to experience life as a man for a month to open up to their sexuality... I think they need to experience Pixies' for a month.

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The qualifiers are certainly a necessary addition, although I'm not sure why you feel the need to apologise, ever, for stating a fact... If the guy is the 'Diet Coke Break' type, no problemo. If unattractive, the chances of an email winging its way to his bosses (and HR's) Inbox go up by a factor of a thousand. Reversing the roles, if a fat, sweaty lady walks through Accounts to drop off some paperwork, her visibly erect nipples will elicit ZILCH in the way of consternation.

Consternation...that's the point. Most women, to varying degrees, fear the male sex drive, or rather its possible consequences. Not a healthy state of affairs in the modern day. Most men find unwanted female sexual attention, at worst, a very mild irritant that is very quickly forgotten. I did a training course recently, and one of the delegates was an enormously obese woman who took a hankering to my big brown eyes and my nice, BBC accent. "Oooh Jay, I just luv your voice, they don't talk like you round my way!!"

She'd take every opportunity to brush past me when it was glaringly obvious she could and should have taken quicker routes. She'd ask me intimate questions that were quite 'inappropriate' for a relative stranger. She'd fall forwards onto me in the lift, breasts touching chest, 'accidentally'...the list goes on.

Now, swap 'he' for 'she' and 'man' for 'woman' in the above two paragraphs, and read them again.

Now, I wasn't OFFENDED, I simply pitied her. Nobody should have to go without, regardless of size/shape etc. I understood that her needs weren't being met, and acted accordingly.

But, imagine if the roles were reversed...


Jaybee.

I think I am gonna come back to this.

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Boy I must be in the wrong place. No women fear me. Now Jay that British stiff upper lip is showing. I would run through fire and crawl over catus and even eat grits to have a woman fall on me in the lift or rub past me. How did you react to this? Further, I may not be reading what you posted right but it sounds like you are not comfortable around well rounded women? Jut to add. I am a nurse and have been one male to twenty females in the workforce and I can tell you that they can and do talk the same way as a group of males in a office or pub would talk. They are humans too. Plus they can be fired just as much as a male would if they acted in a way that would cause offence.

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If I were a man for a month I would celebrate the hell out of not having cramps for once in my life!!! LOL

....and of course play and play and play and ...... lol

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I never have a problem with a man flirting -- or even asking if I want to have sex with him -- as long as he does it nicely. In fact, I find it flattering. Now, if this same guy starts *stalking* me, then I have a different opinion.

Now, I have a whole list of men who I work with whom I would *not* toss out of bed, given the chance. I also have a list of Pixies I feel the same way about, in case you're wondering. Everyone else's attentions are, at best, flattering....

I am not the most ideal woman in the world. My curves have curves, and I have a very...polarizing...personality. I have absolutely no doubt that some of the men on my list would find me unattractive. That's OK...It's life.

If the opportunity ever arose with a man on the list, I might make a move. If he said no, I would move on and understand. I expect men to act the same way.

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I hear you there. Most of my friends have always been women, but almost none of them have ever shown any interest in me (and yes, I asked serveral of them out. Got shot down many times. And I'm still friends with most of them).
Still, I think Lilith is right, it is all about respect. As long as everyone is being respectful, there usually aren't too many problems.

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First of all.....I think it might do you good to spend time as a woman Jaybee, so that you could appreciate that a woman gets erect nipples, not because she's sexually aroused but because it's bloody cold in the office (usually, because the men have control of how much air con is on, and men always seem to be warmer than women!).

Secondly, your man walking through the office with a hard-on, is not behaving in a manner which is appropriate to the office envirnment, just as a woman walking along, complaining that her tampon is uncomfortable, or that she's got thrush is not appropriate behaviour for the office. Incidentally, by the way, I don't wear sleeveless vest type tops in the office in the summer no matter how hot it is (although many of my other female colleagues do) because I have particularly large breasts, and I don't feel it's appropriate to show too much of them at work, while my colleagues are more subtly proportioned and do not look indecent in the same type of garment. The reason I do this? Because I realise that not everyone wants to go about their daily business looking at a vast expanse of my flesh. Likewise, no matter how good looking the bloke in question is, I don't want to see his cock making a tent in his trousers at work! It's what they call 'too much information' about someone!!!

As for appreciating the male sexuality, I think that most women, in the UK at least, do have an appreciation for it, and would argue that men still have little regard for OUR sexuality. The double standard of polygamous women being 'sluts' while their male counterparts are 'just being men' is still rife, female masturbation is still a tabboo subject and on a more personal level, how many men in the uk, continue giving their partner sexual pleasure after they themselves are sated. I know from my point of view that the one thing I like after a great session of sex, is a bit more sex a few minutes later, but how many men even bother to try to get an erection when their women are still craving more? We're capable of orgasm after orgasm, but because men aren't, we are often denied. Not much of an appreciation for OUR sexuality, in my opinion!

Likewise, did you know that when a woman is sexually aroused but not brought to orgasm, it takes 12 hours for that sexual arousal to subside completely, whereas with men, once their erection has gone, their sexual arousal has finished? When you think of all of the thousands of women who have faked it at one time or other while their partner has rolled over and gone to sleep, it puts it into perspective don't you think?

And if women do tut at a man openly displaying his sexuality, do you wonder why? Might it be a touch of jealousy that for centuries women's own sexuality has been kept securely under lock and key, and to an extent still is? How would you feel if women started to bleed freely when they were menstruating, rather than risking using a tampon and getting TSS? Surely that's us expressing a perfectly natural part of our sexuality? Hell, a lot of the time women find themselves breast feeding their babies in public lavatories, because people tut at them if they try to do it elsewhere, despite laws in the UK stating that they are allowed to do it anywhere they like.

I'm sorry, but while I can sympathise that there are constraints put on your sexuality, I'd like to remind you that there are constraints put on all of us, and as others have said here, they are for the sake of showing respect and courtesy to the other people with whom share the planet. Not unreasonable, in my opinion.

End of rant.

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Lou,

Early start tomorrow, but I appreciate the comprehensive reply. Will catch you tomorrow with an equally detailed synopsis.

Meantime, I'm one of the few guys who needs the heating turned UP in October...


JB

Ok,

When I said appreciation for male sexuality, I was speaking here of expression between non-Pixies. Many women, sadly, fear the sexual urges of strange males, and that CANNOT be healthy. Yes, I know the imbalance stems from the fact that we're a lot stronger than you, but regardless, I'm making the point that any imbalance isn't good for either gender. Men were made stronger than women to aid procreation, but ironically, this imbalance has the opposite effect in modern society, and actually means we get less - both men AND women.

Point about the women who express being misperceived as 'slut's well taken, of course. I've seen it for myself. Not sure I agree with we men just 'rolling over' after sex. Nobody knows what the heck goes on in all bedrooms up and down the land, but after talking with a lot of my pals, I'm guessing there's a sea-change in progress. I spent weekends with my last girlfriend doing very little but eating, drinking, and lovemaking. I'm still an oral virgin, but then, I'd have no qualms about going down on my future girlfriend after the event, for as long as she wants me there. Heck, if she wants me to start eating her out at 8am on Saturday morning with a hangover, I won't quit until sunset. I'm a loyal trooper...



Didn't know about the 12 hour period of slowly decreasing arousal in women (thanks for letting me know), but looking back, it makes sense. We blokes do also have a degree of afterglow as well, albeit to a much lesser one; if I found the sex utterly mindblowing, there have been times when she's simply given me a slow kiss a few minutes later, and that is that - the pleasure of the sex was so intense, and the memory of it still vivid, and the kiss such a warming reminder of it that I'm ready again, at full power.

But you know, while I think the breast-feeding laws are spot on correct, a lot of women apply the same discretion with them that you do when you dress for work. You're (fortunately) a big, healthy lass, but perhaps you'd rather not send out those signals at work. Why not? Because you may wish to maintain a businesslike impression, or you are tired of fending off constant advances, or you're a considerate lady. Perhaps all three, and maybe more. But certainly because you'd be misperceived, I'd hazard. Same with us guys. And ironically, although a woman in a bar MAY be thought of as a slut if she sidles up to some hunk and says, "My place. Sex?", if you reverse the roles, you'd find the chances of him throwing his beer in her face is almost zero.

What grates me is that, all my life, I've only ONCE heard an unfamiliar woman express understanding for a mans natural yearnings (at least, not on sex site!) , and then it was only in a song! Whereas I've heard lots of guys - believe it or not - express appreciation for the female libido. My point is that, although we men have always been less fearful of your sexuality than you were of ours, as time moves forward we are now (and consequently and increasingly) more accepting of yours than you are of ours. It's fear - logical, but nonetheless unhealthy fear - of men that constrains you, and also means we don't get as much...

Jaybee.

Ok - I do feel that the fear of the sexual urges of *strange* males should be perfectly healthy for women to a certain extent. You forget that woman often victims of sexual predation by men. A woman might not think, "nice cock there", but more like, "will this man hurt me?".
Also I don't think that if women became men for a month would do much to change the situation. The idea of a female nude to this day still embodies a passive role more or less. It is something to be looked at by the active (usually male) spectator. So a strange female nude would be considered less intimating by most. I don't think that is the case at all with the male nude which might explain some discrepancies.

Also, I was curious as what you meant about men being stronger than women to aid in procreation.

Does that mean more men would expect and get sympathy fucks?