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Old 11-27-2008, 11:29 AM
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Exclamation Amnesty!

I know that many disagree with me but I have just been notified that Obama
& McCain have agreed to bring back up the Amnesty Bill!Ried has agreed to stop the E-Verify program.I tell you this because Illigal immigration is one of
my MAJOR interests,especially with all of the citizens that are out of work!
Many say that they only do work that others won't do.There isn't a job that
I ever wouldn't do.Perhaps that's why both of my houses have the mortgages
paid off! Irish
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Old 11-27-2008, 11:44 AM
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Amnesties have been controversial wherever they have been introduced throughout history.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:15 PM
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Ahh, and I used to think the same way you do, but after the heart ache, the separation, the shear amount of money and time that Mayhem and I have gone through and spent just to become a family and immigrate LEGALLY, I really understand why men women and children sneak into the US or overstay their visitor visas.

It took me time to walk in these immigrants' shoes to understand. And believe me! I have walked many thousands of miles and so has Mayhem and every member of our families!

Yes it is a heated topic, yes there is a lot more that I want to write about sweeping accusations but as this is Thanksgiving and I am thankfull that I have Mayhem as a wonderful husband, and I am grateful that we have the opportunity to apply to come home, I shall leave this post as is and just wish you and your family a Happy and Blessed Thanksgiving that you have the choice to spend together.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:36 PM
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Obviously, I'm not American, but for my part, I welcome anyone into my country if they're willing to work for a living and want to support their own kids.

I have much more of a problem with the 'home grown' layabouts who spend my tax money on the many children they produce and then fail to bring up properly. Ironically, these are the same people who are usually the ones being racist about immigrants and teaching their kids to be bigotted, narrow minded and hypocritical.

I've also learned that I'm in the minority in this regard and that I probably always will be.
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Old 11-27-2008, 09:33 PM
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I amazes me the number of people who blame the person trying to make a living doing what ever menial back breaking job they can find, and not the people paying slave wages to people who have no legal recourse about how they're treated.
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Old 11-27-2008, 09:47 PM
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We are a nation of immigrants, from the beginning. Funny that this post should show up on Thanksgiving, the first "national" holiday celebrated by the some of the earliest European immigrants to these shores. I think it behooves us to remember our roots as a nation, and from that, find compassionate answers to the thorny issues of immigration today. If we do not, we choose to be blind to our history, and we abdicate our humanity.
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Exclamation Amnesty(cont)

Subj: Has the war been costly...?


You think the war is costing us?



OH! Now I understand!!!

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS!

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! Verify at: http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCR...4/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANSCR.../01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANSCR.../12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute....deportation.pdf


13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Verify at: http://www.rense com/general 75/niht.htm <http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .' Verify at: http: //www.drdsk.com/articleshtml<http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml> <http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. Are we THAT stupid? Irish
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:27 PM
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I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. Are we THAT stupid? Irish



You win. I'm sick of it already.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:37 PM
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Have you verified those facts via the links, Irish?


...Then why don't some of the links work?!?!
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...And really, you should check that the links (those that actually work, I mean) do indeed verify the "facts" like you say they do. That "fact" #2, the one that says that "$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens," is not verified by the link you provide. There's no point in checking out the rest of the sources you quote, as you are not credible in your reporting of facts.
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...Then why don't some of the links work?!?!

Neige,

Annoyingly, several of the links are mistyped. Here are three corrections. They should open in your browser.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../12/ldt.01.html
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

To respond to item #9, if unsuppressed – higher – wages were paid instead of the suppressed – lower – ones, the additional costs would probably be passed along in the form of increased prices. Would this be the preferred solution? If so, would it remain the preferred solution if the increased prices put the products or services beyond the reach of poorer Americans?
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I can only repeat what I said before ... if our borders aren't worth protecting ... what is? Do we really not care who enters? Drug dealers? Criminals? Terrorists? Is there any reason we should assume they would not take advantage of an open border policy?
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