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Old 06-25-2004, 09:39 PM
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Maybe YOUR WIFE should have been open and honest with you like I am with my husband. People can help but have feelings for FRIENDS they make on the net. I know of some people that are very heart broken to loose their FRIEND from the site.
Yeah people are on here looking at others. People are curious.

I feel bad for her that she had to be hurt.
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Old 06-25-2004, 09:51 PM
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I read this an hour ago... and altho I wanted to post there and then.. thought it better if I kept my mouth shut and my mind thinking..

and now I have returned....

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Jeff...

First let me say... that I am sorry for your pain... but honestly I believe that you are aiming your emotions in the wrong direction..

you said:

I had never met Naughtyangel until last night. I stumble apon this site through the history on our computer

How is it that you could possibly be married to such a wonderful person and NOT know her??... and YES... whether you care to admit it to yourself... Naughtyangel IS a vital part of "Angela". I don't believe that anyone "stumbles" onto anything... you went LOOKING... whether instinct (or devine intervention) lead you.. and obviously weren't prepared for what you found.


Her pictures are getting an average of 500 downloads each. I know she's hot, but you have no rights to her. To those of you who have been with her either through our pictures, are flirting on the boards, or getting off on your webcam, there is something that has to be said. FUCK YOU, and stay away from my wife.


I can't say I ever looked at her pictures... and I am sure she is beautiful... but let me remind you that 1) NO ONE forced her to post those pictures. She did so with free will and complete knowledge of her actions.

As for the stern "FUCK YOU"... completely unneccesary... the people here didn't go seeking NaughtyAngel... the opposite is true. NaughtyAngel made a home for herself here... selecting those she felt closest to to share...


We now have to work to repair her relationship with God, which was severed through her sins on this site. She never intended to go this far, but that how sin works. It takes you farther then you wanted to go, it keeps you longer then you wanted to stay, and it costs more then you wanted you pay. How many of you would honestly admit that that's how you feel about your sin here.


This is the part that hacks me the most.. We now have to work to repair her relationship with God, which was severed through her sins on this site. Strange.. now it is a "WE" that has to deal with the repair... but where were you when SHE came here... when she was searching for companionship... when she was expressing herself.. sharing her self.. Yes.. you work hard to support your family... but incase you haven't noticed... (and I BELIEVE the bible hints on this).. MONEY ISN'T everything...

We now have to work to repair her relationship with God, which was severed through her sins on this site. She never intended to go this far, but that how sin works. It takes you farther then you wanted to go, it keeps you longer then you wanted to stay, and it costs more then you wanted you pay. How many of you would honestly admit that that's how you feel about your sin here.
To the women here...you have to realize that you are far too special to be trowing yourselves around on the internet. Do you realize that you are part of the internet pornography? Do you really think these guys mean all the stuf they say? They will do whatever it takes to get your clothes off, they don't care about you!


How dare you... you don't know the people here... you don't know the love and support that is offered among us... You don't know how genuinely kind these people are.

You only have the right to identify SIN in your own life... NOT in mine... not in anyone elses.

I am sorry for your pain... but I believe that perhaps you need to address the issues that brought your wife here.... as I said before... we didn't set up her account.. or choose her password... or her identity.
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Old 06-25-2004, 10:01 PM
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And what do YOU do when she isn't looking SIR?
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Old 06-25-2004, 10:19 PM
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Re: Please Read

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Hi everyone, I just wanted to intruduce myself (and say goodbye, I won't be back). My name is Jeff

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FUCK YOU

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Well, I thought I would not post a reply to this. Many of you have opted to take the high road and be very eloquent in your replies and to that I say "thank you" as you express the feelings of this community well. But, since he decided to throw it out there... all I can say is "Same to you and the horse you rode in on!"
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Old 06-26-2004, 03:50 AM
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Here's something straight from the teachings of Jesus for you Jeff:

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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Old 06-26-2004, 06:24 AM
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I just want to say that I fully understand my wife role in what she did. That is something to be dealt with in the privacy of our own home, not on a public forum. The reason I posted this is because I hate you for the things you have been doing with her. If I caught her cheating cheating in a physical relationship I wouldn't only blame her, but the other guy as well. I can't hold on to that kind of hatred in my life, I already forgave Ang, and I want to forgive you and move on with my life. I couldn't forgive you until you knew how much you hurt me. You gave her self confidence, feelings of exceptance, made her feel sexy, made her feel wanted, made her feel proud...this is all stuff that you striped from me! I'm over it now, I just needed you to know how I feel. I never expected you to recieve my message, and never cared if you did, I just needed you to know. If you don't think what I said applied to you, then it probably didn't. I realize it was only a handful of people she talked to regularly. Just remember that there are real people involved here, and people are getting hurt, I forgive you all, and just want to move on with my life now.
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Old 06-26-2004, 07:25 AM
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Tshindon,

I am numbered among those who complimented naughtyangel on her posts, and yes, may also be numbered among those who received compliments from her.

While this situation is neither of your making nor enjoyable for you, permit me to make a modest proposal. Before leaving this site behind you, take the opportunity to learn more about your wife by reading what she actually said and did.

1. Click the back button on your browser
2. Scroll to the bottom of the page
3. Click on the “go” button in the lower right
4. In the text box under “Search By User Name” type your wife’s nic, naughtyangel, and on the left side select the “Show results as posts” option button.
5. Click the “Perform Search” command button.

This is an opportunity for you to unveil parts of your loved one which you admit you do not yet know. The opportunity is unlikely to return. Have her sit with you. Discuss her posts if you two can do so.

I thank you for your forgiveness and wish you and yours well in the future.
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Old 06-26-2004, 07:27 AM
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Very good idea Jseal.

"We cannot learn from that which we do not understand"
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Old 06-26-2004, 07:59 AM
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I have to wonder *outloud* had NA been shunned her for her choice to surf the net with a marriage license if we would have been receiving this same message from her husband?

Is that what he is suggesting, should we shun each person who happens upon this site and is married, reminding them that they are doing wrong (not sure who defines it as a wrongdoing)?

Or is this not even an acceptable act for singledom persons either?

It's interesting, being single myself and having made friends with married persons, and even had very intimate moments virtually, I've often questioned if it is right or wrong. I still don't know the real answer to that question, even for myself.

But, what I do know is that the first man to show me what true love means was someone I met virtually, someone who is married, and someone I still consider a wonderful friend. Our intamacy has ended as he repaired his marriage (afterall that's what he was seeking is someone to fill his emptiness), but we remain strong friends. As I see it, we were there for one another for a purpose. I filled his void, and helped lead him back to his wife, he taught me what love is truly about and hopefully someday I will be able to again experience such with someone who can give to me of themselves completely.

I know I am getting a bit away from the point of my post, but I must say that I am not surprised by this attack as I have seen it before. It's always the result of someone not sharing fully with their spouse for whatever reason. What will never cease to amaze me though is the attitude that everyone else in the situation is wrong. Such as this kind gent has indicated that we are wrong and have no rights to his wife. I won't get into how that word "RIGHTS" burns me terribly, but to each their own.

It's a shame the only way we could have made him happy is to shame, belittle, dislike, shun, and cast stones at NA - but I bet then we'd be blamed for not being very friendly people. It's a catch 22 that has no winning solution for this man.

Now that I've borrowed Lixy's soap box for far too long of a post, I will end it.

best of luck to you and yours kind gent. I hope that NA can show you what a warm and accepting place this is. Perhaps someday down the road you will be able to accept that this is not about pornography, or about being ravaged but that this is about a wonderful group of people spread across the globe that without the internet would not likely have the opportunity to interact. To learn and share with others about your life is an amazing opportunity that the internet has presented us with and I can only hope that someday all people will come to accept it for the wonderful resource it can be.

*dang got right back up on that box*
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Old 06-26-2004, 08:34 AM
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Bravo to Maddy.... awesome post....
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Old 06-26-2004, 10:51 AM
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Tshindon,

You certainly have one heck of a way of getting even with your wife.

If you hold all that you say as sacred then why come here and vent?
I understand your hurt but placing yourself above the rest of us(including your wife) is not a reason to come here and preach.

You state very clearly that the two of you have worked things out and are moving on. Well good for the two of you, but did you really have to come here and make this matter a public forum just to make yourself "feel better"?
You want your marriage and personal life to remain private without interference from outsiders, yet you come here and invite at will everyone to join you, to read your hurt, your anger. You come back again after saying you wouldn't! Why?
Instead of returning to the source of your pain.....move on and quit embarrassing yourself. AND don't blame us or your wife for your actions in this matter. You could have dealt with this privately and you should have. Just my$.02
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:11 AM
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wow


ummm, wow.

i am new here and don't know NA at all but i am married and i am a sinner. i enjoy my life and my husband enjoys me. i am not perfect none of us are. angela is human and if she was seeking attention elsewhere then jeff my dear you have let your wife down. she has not let you down because you know darn well that flesh is weak. fulfill her desires and she would have no reason to find pleasure in others.
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:43 AM
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Hello Jeff,
I must say you have left me thinkin long and hard about some things....first, i must say that i'm still somewhat of a newbie here and never got to know your wife....but i do know she is very highly thought of and not for the so-called reasons you mentioned. And i do so wish peace and happiness to her as she goes this journey.....and yes, i do mean the peace and joy that passeth all understanding.
Secondly i find myself quite sad that you and she have had this sort of conflict. I feel I must say that i wonder if you let her be as sexually open with you as she NEEDS to be. And I say that not as one whom you chastise, but as a woman who has been in those same shoes. As two become one, please be patient with her and with yourself and with you two as a couple. Have the patience of God and love her and let her love as she NEEDS to. Sexuality does not fit a mold. Explore TOGETHER.....truly be as one at all times.
And lastly the sad part to me is that you don't know the real love that goes on here. I may be a newbie but i have seen the way they support and encourage each other. I am constantly encouraged and lifted up by the few i am getting to know. And it's more than just a sex thing....although that ain't such a bad perk.
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Old 06-26-2004, 03:37 PM
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I just think it's funny that he said it would be his first and last post in the very first sentence...but lo and behold....he came back! Now, as far as the sins here...we should all go do 10 Hello Dolly's and drink 20 bloody marys and we'll forget our so-called sins and wont' worry about it!
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Old 06-26-2004, 03:54 PM
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The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self control. - 1 Corinthians 7:3-5


Yes to maybe the surprise of many, Skip knows his bible very well. While I think lots of the things that goes on here crosses the lines of sin, sin in the end is each to his own heart and between each person and God. I myself am one of the biggest failures at temptation I know, but I still come here, not out of temptation, but out of fellowship.

If your wife truly loves you as you say, then it was your failure and ill attention that brought her to seek what she needs. Paul knew that no matter the faith of an individual that the human beings self control will not hold what we need naturally. Love your wife, take her to bed and make love to her as a husband should with passion of being.

I wish both of you the best of luck, every marriage deserves to survive.
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